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Learning another Austronesian language should be easy. Or maybe not.

I have been exposed to sundanese for years and still don't speak it.

I am just stubborn, lol. My friends picked it up after a year or two

Anyway some Sundanese proficiency is much more necessary when you live in rural West Java (instead of Bandung).

Some people here seem to insist on speaking Sundanese even though I reply in Indonesian.

@gombang as long can understand 😂 but over here we're used to gagak bercakap sama helang behaviour. Is it unusual?

@cendawanita in certain situation it's fine, if you are sure the other person fully comprehend you. E.g. a lot of my relatives from mother's side are Mandailing speakers and i can understand them although I never speak the language 😌
Sometimes they will speak Mandailing to me and i respond in Minangkabau or Indonesian.

In this case though I am sure the villagers don't really know about my ability in Sundanese. I guess they just assume if you live here you must learn the language 😬

@gombang haaaa that is very frustrating 🫠

@cendawanita yeah usually we just switch to a common language. Probably some of them are not that fluent in Indonesian? 🤔

@gombang oh that could definitely be a thing right... I remember once in Bali a local told me if I barely speak they'll at least think I'm Jakartan because I'll give myself away not knowing the local language lol

@cendawanita or a Sumatran. Some people confuses Malaysians and Sumatrans (well the accent is close enough, probably 🤣)

@gombang hahahaha if that happens I'll count myself lucky!

@gombang
Taxi driver the other day had pretty much zero English, but I asked him how many languages he did speak and he replied, Acehnese, Bahasa Nasional (Indonesia), Javanese, and Sundanese. Which impressed the hell out of me.

@ton i guess that person used to stay in Java for some time!

My late mother also didn't speak any English but was trilingual (two local languages + Indonesian)
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@gombang
Yeah, that just seems to be the norm for so many people in this region. (Also, sorry for your mom's passing. That's tough.) The linguistic resources that people can call on are amazing to me, and the code switching can be crazy. I eavesdropped on one extended family by the pool at a hotel in Medan moving fluidly through Chinese, Indonesian (Malay? I can't distinguish really), and English. It's fun!

@ton @gombang Was that Mandarin or Hokkien they were speaking? I was impressed to find Hokkien still so widely spoken in Medan when there!

@ncoca @ton I think Hokkien will be more likely.

@gombang @ncoca
Differentiating those two is beyond my limited abilities. I do not speak any Chinese.

@ton @gombang They're actually quite different - almost as different as Japanese and Korean.

@ncoca @gombang
Oh, sure. I can see that. I just don't have the linguistic chops or knowledge of, I guess I should say, Sinitic languages? You know, but for anyone else, I went looking. Here is one comparison from Taiwan. https://youtu.be/uPNHhxTIZNA?si=IFtZkmFB71hfct85